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stoutfellow ([personal profile] stoutfellow) wrote2006-03-28 08:02 am
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Lexical Drift

Here, courtesy of Language Log, are two interesting examples, caught in the process: gaydar and like.

[identity profile] countrycousin.livejournal.com 2006-03-28 04:05 pm (UTC)(link)
hmmm. I'm just getting acquainted with "gaydar" and already it's shifting?

But I thought that usage of "like" had been around like forever. I didn't recognize it as drift.

[identity profile] stoutfellow.livejournal.com 2006-03-28 04:11 pm (UTC)(link)
I was familiar with "like" in the sporting sense, and the "new" sense seems a straightforward generalization. It does seem to be a generalization, though. (Apparently Pullum wasn't aware of the sporting sense, which makes it seem a good deal more abrupt.)

[identity profile] countrycousin.livejournal.com 2006-03-28 04:40 pm (UTC)(link)
I guess I have trouble recognizing "straightforward generalization" as drift. I think you are correct.

What has struck me is how "gate" as a suffix became instantaneously used to denote scandal and has so remained. And the poor Watergate was (and is) just a building.

[identity profile] muckefuck.livejournal.com 2006-03-28 05:07 pm (UTC)(link)
That is an awesome piece of innovative derivation. It's even been loaned to other languages. (The French dubbed the Lewinsky scandal bragate, a clever pun on braguette "pants fly".) I wonder if future historians are going to be scratching their heads trying to figure out how water figured into the Watergate scandal.

A less felicitous parallel is the use of "-peat" to mean "consecutive sports championship". It was born when the Chicago Bulls won their third straight NBA Championship in 1993, which came to be called a "three-peat". There was much talk of a "four-peat", which never materialised, although another "three-peat" did. After the first victory in that later string, one of my friends starting hearing the nonce formation "two-peat", which has subsequently worked its way into sports journalism (e.g Vics not focused on two-peat (http://www.theage.com.au/articles/2004/10/09/1097261855363.html?from=storylhs).)

[identity profile] kd5mdk.livejournal.com 2006-03-28 06:29 pm (UTC)(link)
While most of the -gate scandals were not incredibly clever, I did laugh out loud when I first heard the derivation used, in "Whitewatergate".

[identity profile] dan-ad-nauseam.livejournal.com 2006-03-29 09:09 pm (UTC)(link)
The word "threepeat" was coined by a celebrating player immediately after San Francisco won its second consecutive Super Bowl in 1990.

[identity profile] kd5mdk.livejournal.com 2006-03-28 06:27 pm (UTC)(link)
I like The Onion article where a guy talks about his "amazing blackdar" whereby he can tell if someone is black by just looking at them.

That said, I've usually heard -dar as connected to whatever group you're looking for, not the general "gaydar".

[identity profile] countrycousin.livejournal.com 2006-03-28 07:04 pm (UTC)(link)
I like The Onion article where a guy talks about his "amazing blackdar" whereby he can tell if someone is black by just looking at them.

heh. :<) My youngest, who is adopted, and who, I suspect, would easily trigger this person's amazing skill, has "white" on her birth certificate, whether by virtue of the adoption or from the birth mother I never inquired.

That said, I've usually heard -dar as connected to whatever group you're looking for, not the general "gaydar".

I had heard some of these - that seems a more reasonable extension.

[identity profile] muckefuck.livejournal.com 2006-03-29 04:36 pm (UTC)(link)
I've also heard simply "'dar" for a good ten years or more, although usually this is a clip for "gaydar", e.g. "He didn't ping my 'dar." That could simply be an artefact of my milieu, of course.